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I left Ahmadiyyat because Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a liar and a charlatan. Find out why I believe this to be true.

Monday, January 21, 2008

The End of Ahmadiyya?

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad - The Impostor
It certainly looks like the end of the road for the Ahmadiyya.

In Indonesia, as in the rest of the Muslim world, the Ahmadiyya are not just considered a heretical sect by Muslims, but a treacherous one. By regularly denouncing Muslims as terrorists (but never overtly of course) they align themselves with those who despise Islam. By claiming victimhood despite claiming ownership to "The True Islam" and thereby expelling all Muslims from Islam in so doing, they come across smelling a bit hypocritical.

They love censorship. Not only did they try and take my YouTube work down, ultimately unsuccessfully of course, but they also failed to respond when I tried to elicit a reason. Mostly of course, they censor Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's work. Not surprising really, as this man, who claimed to be more than just any old prophet, was fond of obscene epithets to describe his opponents when they repeatedly pointed out his fallacies and absurdities. They censor his work by failing to provide English translations of his more obscene outbursts.

The interesting thing is how most of the devotees suffer from cognitive dissonance. I should know. I was once one of them. Lying to yourself is the only way you can cope with the mental meltdown that results from trying to understand the ramblings and chicanery of a seriously doped-up charlatan.

Ahmadis deal with their cognitive dissonance with a standard bunch of retorts. Including:

  • "Your references are wrong". (No they're not. I checked them out. Sometimes the Qadianis shift the page numbers in Mirza's books - erm - that's cheating!)

  • "You're quoting out of context" (On the odd occasion, yes, but most of his nasty output is nasty despite heavy contextualisation)

  • "That's not an authentic book" (Which is why I used only Ahmadi books in my YouTube videos, either bought from them, or downloaded, live, on video, from their web site)

  • "The same accusations were made against Muhammad (pbuh)" (Actually, they weren't. Nobody accused the Last Prophet (saw) of using foul language against anyone, or of taking drugs, ever - and more to the point - any accusations made were rejected in the Qur'an)

  • "He's not really claiming prophethood" (Err, read his books. Especially "The Removal of a Misunderstanding" and "Lecture Sialkot")

I enjoyed exposing some of Mirza's more blasphemous, but less abusive work last year on YouTube. It provoked a huge amount of interest and a backlash not just against me, but from the ordinary, innocent Ahmadi who has been kept in the dark, against the Qadiani leadership, who have no answers. Intellectually risible and shamefully vacuous, they are being exposed as nothing more than a cheap cult, existing only to extort money from their members and to serve their imperial masters.

I have learned that they send tins with the face of the latest Mirza on to children, poor or not, to fill the cult's coffers. Charging a membership of 6.25% of all salaries after tax, and calling those who don't subscribe to the "Get me into heaven" scheme at a minimum of 10% earnings and property "hypocrites", the leadership deserves exposure to the truth, and ridicule and brickbats from those with understanding.

Now it appears that the foundations of the movement have been smashed as the Indonesian Ahmadiyya has publicly declared that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was not a prophet after all, but just a teacher. This is interesting in the light of Mr. Mirza's repeated proclamations of prophethood and the Ahmadiyya's insistence that those who aren't Ahmadis are in fact kaafirs (infidels/deniers) and outside the pale of Islam.

What kind of a religion categorically denies its own prophet in order to keep going as a headless chicken? Why, the completely nonsensical and utterly pointless Ahmadiyya of course. It has shot itself in the foot. It has lost the wind in its sails. It is lost at sea and listing.

This news will send shockwaves through the core of the movement and no doubt, there will be attempts to explain it away in the time-dishonoured fashion of Mirza, who routinely claimed victory despite being the victim of TKO after TKO against the most average maulvi of the time.

With this massive own goal (switching sports here) it looks like this is the beginning of the end of the Ahmadiyya. One can only hope that they will abandon the teachings of the deluded, opium-eating charlatan Mirza and rejoin the mainstream.

And as long as they reject Mirza completely, seeing as his beliefs are impossible to reconcile with mainstream Islam, they will of course, be welcome with open arms. Come back to the fold of Islam Ahmadis, we have a lot of work to do together. Insha'Allah.


  • At 1:14 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Salam Alaikum Akhi Shahid,

    MashAllah Akhi and BarrakAllahufeq!
    May Allah bless you and gives you JAnnat al Firdaus. Amin

    Wa Alaikum salam

    Your Brother

  • At 11:34 am, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You have mentioned on the heading of your blog that you left Ahmadiyyat because you believe that Ghulam Ahmad was a liar. You did not leave them because you think that Mohammad was the last prophet of God. But you believe there will be prophets after him just that Ghulam Ahmad was not that prophet. Because you believe he was a liar. If he hadn't lied like he did, you would not have left Ahmadiyat and became a true Muslim. So basically you are as much of a heretic as your Ahmadiya brothers. In reality you neither belong to them or to the Muslims. You are an outcast from both groups. Care to comment?

  • At 11:26 pm, Anonymous Basil-Raza said…

    first of all i don't know who in the world gave you the right to say ahmadies are false. you think of yourself as what ??? GOD!!

  • At 11:35 pm, Anonymous Basil-Raza said…

    man!!!! Pakistan,bangladesh,Saudi Arab... Now indonesia is trying to band ahmadiyyat. when are you people ever going to learn that what god makes, mere humans and there laws can't do a scratch to it.

  • At 11:39 pm, Anonymous AAP. Electroweak said…

    i think that those rascals won't even aprove the comments that an ahmadi might put. that just acting like a chicken. that might even mean they are sacred of us becuse they might just keep getting burned since they don't posses Hidayat.nor do they have allah on there side

  • At 8:08 am, Anonymous Anonymous said…


    Those who are ahmadies writing comments please try to write only good words, and please pray for them who are not understanding ahmadiyyath. Our duty is only to preach and Pray to Allah for them.
    Else leave it to Allah. In this Khilafath year , they can look to ghana, nigeria benin and so on they can watch what is happening in whole world.



  • At 2:20 am, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    What the f*** do you know about Ahamdiyyat???? NOTHING!!!! Your a motherf****ing a**hole and you probably are one of stupid anti Ahamdiyyat muslims that ruin things for people that love God and only seek to worship him. And also, I'm muslim and I don't see anything wrong with thinking/knowing that he was the last prophet, thats what you all do...believing that christ will come back and save you Muslims??? Lets get that straight, he will NEVER come back, he's dead, and done...what ya got to say about that, ass!!!!! Oh and we don't believe that he was the last prophet, Muhammad is the seal of the prophets, all Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (rab) was, ,was a person to revive the faith of Islam, and never once did he say that he was a prophet, never... maybe you shouold freakin better research on what you think before you popst such vular comments about your own people, who are Muslims first and foremost...heres a hepful website to get your vulgar opinions straight,, you can find all the facts, and fiction, bastard!!!!! You don't even deserve to have Gods blessings!!!

  • At 10:26 pm, Anonymous your sister in islam said…

    As Salaam Aleikum,

    While I was carrying out some research on Ahmadiyya, I happened to stumble upon the website, and though it I got to your blog. I really admire the way in which your writings provoke thought and thus the urge to search for the truth. I, Alhamdolillah, am a Muslim, maybe not a very pious and righteous one, but at least I know that, Alhamdolillah, I believe in what Allah tells us to believe and I try my hardest to follow the path of those who Allah loves, the path that Allah sent Rasul Allah (SAWS), with the Holy Quran, to guide us towards.

    My interest in the Ahmadiyya belief arose when I found out that a very good friend of mine follows that belief. He, as all Ahmadis, remained secretive about his identity but because of a few reasons, spilled it out to me around 6 months back, and I have been reading about Ahmadiyyat ever since. He seems to be a very firm believer of the so-called Ahmadiyya 'Islam', and is an active member of the jamaat out here in Abu Dhabi, UAE. His beliefs are so strong that sometimes even I seem to falter in mine. But, Alhamdolillah, Allah has provided me with an open mind and a strong sense of reasoning and understanding, and He always stands by me so as to make sure that I don't waver from His path. After all that I have read about the belief and after all that I have been told from both sides, Ahmadi, and non-Ahmadi, I have a firm belief that the path that my friend and his family are following is the path of those who have gone astray. The path of disbelief in what Allah teaches us in the Quran.

    My friend's religious condition upsets me. I pray to Allah every day to bring him, his family, and all the other Ahmadis to see the truth. The truth that Allah has laid down so clearly for all of us in the form of the Quran, Alhamdolillah. I have tried talking to my friend a lot of times, but he seems to be so blinded by his faith that he refuses to understand what I try to tell him. He, instead, encourages me to read books about Ahmadiyyat as he believes that those books will show me the so-called truth. I have been reading from here and there, everywhere, including their official website, but Alhamdolillah, all that reading and research has only caused my beliefs in the true Islam, and the true teachings of the Quran, to strengthen, all praises to Allah.

    I would like you to help me, as it seems like Allah has made you a Wasilah in fulfilling my aim to bring my friend, and through him his family, and other Ahmadis that he knows to the right path. As you know about the Ahmadi ways and workings so well, I thought that maybe you could help me by advising me how I could go about with trying to get my friend to understand and believe me.

    I will appreaciate your help.

    Awaiting your reply,

    Jazakum Allah Khairan

    p.s. I sent you an email at, but since I haven't received a reply, I thought I'd just leave a comment here.

  • At 10:42 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You know nothing about Ahmadiyyat. you followed the wrong path. All i can say is that u are wrong to say that Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a liar. Allah will decide where you will go after you die. May Allah forgive you for leaving the right path.


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