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Tuesday, March 29, 2005

The Anti-Islamic 'Prophet'

I would like to give an example of Mirza Sahib's anti-Islamic behaviour that stands in direct opposition to RasulAllah's (SAW) way.

Concerning the marriage-that-never-could-happen to Mohammedi Begum - Mirza Sahib had this to say about his own son Sultan:


From the day of such marriage, I will disown and disinherit Sultan Ahmad, and from the same day, I divorce his mother(MGA's first wife - translator). And if his brother, Fazal Ahmad (MGA's other son - translator) , who is married to the niece of Mirza Ahmad Beg (father of the girl), does not divorce his wife on the same day that he hears of the marriage, he too will be disowned and disinherited. None of them will have any right on me after that. And after such marriage, all relations of being relatives, sharing happiness, and of empathy – will be gone, and there will be no sharing in any good, evil, sorrow happiness, weddings and funerals.


(The full text of the above translation can be found at ahmedi.org )

Now - clearly - Mirza Sahib went on to break ties of kinship.

The following is recorded in Sahih Bukhari - The Book of Al-Adab, chapter 5:


2011. Narrated 'Amr bin Al-'Aas (ra): I heard the Prophet (saw) saying openly not secretly, "The family of Abu so-and-so (i.e. Talib) are not among my 'Auliya (supporters and helpers). No doubt my Wali (Protector etc.) is Allah and the righteous believing people. but they (that family) have kinship (Rahm) with me and I will be good and dutiful to them"


It is established that Mirza Sahib could not be any second advent, because it appears he had not read this hadith, and if he had, he ignored it. Such a shame that he couldn't learn from this beautiful example, such was his rage and passion.

Perhaps he also ignored the following Sahih Hadith from Imam Bukhari's Al-Adab, this time chapter 3:

2009. Narrated Jubair bin Mut'im (ra) that he heard the Prophet (saw) saying "Al-Qati (the person who severs the bond of kinship) will not enter Paradise"


How many such examples of anti-Islamic behaviour by Mirza Sahib remain hidden from the eyes of unsuspecting and innocent Ahmadis, caught in a web of jama'at deceit and self-justification?

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Monday, March 14, 2005

Why would Allah SWT say this? [3]

You are to Me like My Unity and my Uniqueness. The time is approaching when you will be helped and will be known among people. You are to Me like My Throne. You are to Me like My son. You have a standing with Me of which the people have no knowledge. We are your guardian in this world and in the hereafter. When you are angry, I am angry; and when you love, I love.
Haqeeqatul Wahi pp. 70-108


Recall what Allah has said in one of the most inspiring and majestic chapters of the Noble Qur'an:
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
And there is none like unto Him.

The Noble Qur'an, Sura Al-Ikhlas


Mirza Sahib claims that Allah SWT said to him "You are to Me like My son". Would the Allah SWT who said in the Noble Qur'an "He begetteth not" really say such a thing? Would Allah SWT use such a metaphor when He has been so categoric in denying any progeny? Allah SWT, in the Final Revelation, revealed to the Final Prophet SAW, rebuked the Christians for daring to suggest such a thing. Why would the same Allah SWT contradict Himself?

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  • At 7:47 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    IN RESPONSE TO "ANTA MINNI BEMANZELATE WALADI" .

    A REVELATION REVEALED TO THE HOLY PROMISED MESSIAH.

    IT MEANS YOU ARE DEAR TO ME AS A SON IS DEAR TO A FATHER !!__________________________________________________

    Dear shahid,

    In response to your allegation I may sat that :-

    You might be knowing well a hadith of the Holy prophet Muhammad [ peace be on Him],

    "Al-khalqo Ayal-ul-Allah" !!

    It means that the whole creatures are children of Allhah !!


    2. Dear shahid ! In this hadith the word like,similar,metaphorical , "bemanzelat" is not used.

    DO you believe the whole creatures are actual children of God ? REPLY ME ?

    3.If you say and interpret the hadith that the whole creatures are just "like the children of God".

    Does God have the creatures like children ? Reply me ?

    what ever the is reply yours so that is mine !!

    4.If you say and interpret the hadith that as God has no actual children, nor like children so the

    "children " mean the dear ones and beloved ones like children.So that is the meaning of "ANTA MINNI BEMANZELATE WALADI" ! You are dear to me as a child is dear to a father.

    4.Dear shahid ! The words "sons of God" are used for Jesus Christ,for peace makers,for the judges and the prophets etc in the holy Bible.

    What do you mean were they actual and real sons of God ?

    were they real "sons of God" ?

    Or were they dear metaphorically "like sons" ,meaning they were beloved of God as son is beloved to his father !!


    Dear shahid ! IN THE SAME MEANING THE REVELATION OF THE HOLY PROMISED MESSIAH,"ANTA MINNI BEMANZELATE WALADI" IS USED !!

    It means metaphorically that you are dear to me as a son is dear to his father !!



    A QUESTION FOR shahid

    _______________________________________

    Dear shahid ! FOR A LAZY- BOY AND AN IGNORANT PERSON LIVING IN A ROOM OF GLASSES IT IS VERY EASY TO RAISE OBJECTION BUT REPLYING A QUESTION IS DIFFICULT FOR YOU !! NOW PLEASE REPLY ME 2 QUESTIONS :_

    [1] In the Holy Quran the hands of the Holy Prophet Muhammad [peace be on Him] are called "YADULLAHE" hands of allah [Surah Al-Fatah verse 11].

    Were the hands of the Holy Prophet actual hands of Allah? Reply me ?

    [2].In the battle of Badar throwing of a handful of pebbles and sand on the enemies by the holy Prophet is mentioned throwing by Allah.?

    [ see the verse "Walakinna-Allaha Rama" Surah Al-Anfal verse 18]


    NOW REPLY ME , Was the HOLY PROPHET MUHAMMAD GOD ? DID the holy prophet became God ? reply me shahid ? WERE THE HANDS OF THE HOLY PROPHET, HANDS OF ALLAH ?


    Dear shahid! you were alleging about the holy Promised Messiah on the words "Bemanzelate waladi". THERE the word "Bemanzelate" metaphorically is used.

    while in the Holy Quran the word "bemanzelah"metaphorically is not used. ,Straightway, the Holy Prophet's HANDS ARE CALLED "HANDS OF GOD", AND THE THROWING OF THE HANDFUL OF PEBBLES AND SAND BY THE HOLY PROPHET MUHAMMAD [PEACE BE ON HIM] IS MENTIONED "THROWING BY ALLAH" WITHOUT MENTIONING "BEMANZELAH" OR like or METAPHORICALLY.

    NOW REPLY ME Mr shahid ! WAS THE HOLY PROPHET MUHAMMAD GOD ?

    DID HE BECOME GOD ? REPLY ME SHAHID ? I WILL BE WAITING FOR REPLY !!

    Dear Mr Shahid ! Take care for the future .Never dare to raise any objection which you yourself have to reply !!

    A HUMBLE SERVANT OF AHMADIYYAT,THE TRUE ISLAM,

     
  • At 9:58 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    A question for the "A HUMBLE SERVANT OF AHMADIYYAT,THE TRUE ISLAM" please provide reference for the hadith you quote ""Al-khalqo Ayal-ul-Allah""

    I would like to know which of the sahih books of hadith this is to be found in please.

     
  • At 10:22 pm, Blogger Shahid said…

    Dear "HUMBLE SERVANT OF AHMADIYYAT". It is truly a shame that my Urdu is as bad as your English.

    Your style is typical IJKBaluch Sahib, it's a shame you're hiding behind anonymity.

    I'm disappointed that you have called me a lazy boy and an ignorant person. Allow me to suggest that you use upper case sparingly. It comes across as shouting; if as I suspect, you are IJKBaluch Sahib, then you will know what I'm talking about.

    Dear Sir, my blog is not a forum for debate. If you wish to debate, even anonymously, then please join me at www.ahmedi.org where answers to most of your points have already been given in threads started with the same headings as these three posts.

    In the meantime, I humbly request that you keep your posts reasonably short and focussed, and that you always provide references. If you refer to ahadith, then it must have a strong chain of narration.

    Whatever you want to say in support of your weak case, my answer boils down to something very simple indeed. Allah SWT despises the idea of sonship. He has made it abundantly clear over and over again in the Holy Qur'an. Why would Allah use this most despicable metaphor for anyone? Least of all Mirza Sahib - after all - if Allah SWT had wanted to use this foul simile, would He not have (astaghfirullah) used it for RasulAllah SAW?

     
  • At 7:35 pm, Anonymous Straitforward said…

    If you are not happy with the highly controversial and objectionable Satanic Ilhams of Mirza Qadiani, then there is probably a need to make them more acceptable to the masses with very little modifications. As an example, below please find the following slightly edited Ilhams of Hazrat Mirza saheb revealed to him by his dear friend, Satan. These Ilhams are mainly in the form of a dialogue between the two good friends.

    Wa iz qaal-ash-Shaitan-o ya Mirza anta minni bemanziate waladee
    [And remember when the Satan told Mirza that you are just like my son]

    Anta ma’eya wa ana ma’aka wa ana amshee ilaik
    [You are with me as I am with you and I am walking toward you]

    Sirruka sirree fa innak be-a’yonena
    [Your secret is my secret as you are under my observant eyes]

    Nahmaduka wa nusallee minal jaheem
    [We send you our greetings and blessings from the Hell]

    An-Naar-o wal-Jaheem-o ma’aka kama huma ma’eya
    [The Fire and the Hell are with you as they are with me]

    Areeka barakat-im min kulle tarfil jaheem. Wa tara naslam-ba’eedan feeh
    [I will show you my blessings all around the Hell. And you will see your progeny in it.]

    Ya Mirza fadhatil-la’nata ‘ala shafataik
    [O Mirza, curses (La’nat) have been placed on your lips]

    Wa ma arsalnaaka illa La’natal lil-aalameen
    [We have sent you as a curse for the worlds]

    Man farraqa bainee wa bainaka fa ma ‘arafak
    [Whosoever distinguishes you from me, does not know you at all]

    Laulaka lema khuliqan Naar
    [Had it been not for you, then why the Fire would have been created]

    Kamislika durrun la yudha’o
    [A pearl like yourself would not be wasted]

    Zawwajnaka bikrun fid-dunya wa thayyibun fil Jaheem
    [We have given you in marriage a virgin in this world and then a widow in the Hell]

     

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Why would Allah SWT say this? [2]

The earth and heaven are with you as they are with Me. Your secret is My secret. You are to Me as My Unity and Uniqueness.
Arba'een, No 2, pp 9-21)


Doesn't the above make you feel uncomfortable? Would Allah SWT say such a thing? It is the last sentence that bothers me the most.

Recall, Allah SWT says in Sura Al-Ikhlas:

Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
And there is none like unto Him.
The Noble Qur'an, Sura Al-Ikhlas


Again, note carefully the last line.

Why would the Allah SWT who so majestically said "And there is none like unto him" also say to Mirza Sahib "You are to Me as My Unity and Uniqueness"?

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Why would Allah SWT say this?


I have received the revelation: "God has determined to foster thy name and to make it shine in the universe. Many thrones have descended from heaven, but thy throne has been set up the highest of all. The angels help thee at the time of meeting thy enemies."
( Letter addressed to Seth Abdur Rahman of Madras, Maktoobat Ahmadiyya Vol. V part I p.30 )


According to Ahmadis - Is the throne of Mirza Sahib higher than the throne of RasulAllah SAW?

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Saturday, March 12, 2005

Dear Ahmadi Debaters

[blockquote[Who doth more wrong than such as forge a lie against Allah, or deny His Signs? But never will prosper those who sin.
( The Noble Quran, Yunus, 10:17 )

Ascribing false things to me(SAW) is not like ascribing false things to anyone else. Whosoever tells a lie against me intentionally then surely let him occupy his seat in Hell-Fire.
( Hadith Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 378 )
[/blockquote]

You know very well that jama'at Ahmadiyya, from the time of Mirza Sahib, has the following habits:

  1. Innovative interpolation of Qur'anic translation text

  2. Innovative interpretation/tafseer

  3. Reliance on weak ahadith over sahih ahadith

  4. Even in the case of weak hadith, misquoting and misrepresenting the words

  5. Misrepresenting many Muslim scholars

  6. Quoting and misquoting Qur'an and ahadith out of context, without reference, in an attempt to fool, misguide and befuddle the audience



If Jama'at Ahmadiyya was true, would it need to rely on any of the above schemes?

Why should anyone in their right minds believe a word you say?

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