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I left Ahmadiyyat because Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a liar and a charlatan. Find out why I believe this to be true.

Monday, January 31, 2005

Mirza Masroor Annoucement!

". . . I brought the attention of my Jama'at that all people should pray from the bottom of their hearts for their magnanimous government that Allah the Exalted should give it a Great Victory in the war that is going on in Iraq . . . so wherever the members of my Jama'at are, they should give "chanda" according to their means for the injured (soldiers) of the British Government who have sustained injury in the Iraq War . . . this "chanda" should be collected and the lists sent to Mirza Masroor Ahmad in London (who has been appointed for this duty) by 1 March 2005 . . . my Jama'at should consider this work important and carry it out urgently."

(Jan 30, 2005 Advertisement, Mamooli Ishtiharat vol.1, p.1)

That's right folks. The Iraqis must be overthrown and subdued. Since they didn't pledge allegiance to Ahmadiyya and God's Khalifa, they aren't really Muslims. So it's right that we should utterly raze their country to the ground. As long as there are so few Ahmadis there, and it is difficult for us to be accepted there (because of that thorny issue of them knowing Arabic and thus understanding that old "Khatamanabiyeen" chestnut that we use on the unsuspecting) - it's an accursed land. It is one of the prophecies of the Promised Messiah, my great-grandfather, that, erm, the sun will rise somewhere, someday, and it has done, millions of times, and that's milions of miracles now,

Don't send money to your central Mosque, send it to me directly, make it payable to me, and I'll see that a part of it gets to the government. The rest I shall keep for "administration" purposes. Since jama'at doesn't file its returns until years after they're due anyway, it shouldn't be a problem for this money to "disappear" by then anyway. And what I mean by that of course, is that it will go to some mosque project that will get forgotten about, or perhaps to an auxiliary section of MTA. Or something. We'll work it out.

And if the office-bearers, the ones who hold their positions for a lifetime, should berate you, humiliate you, rob you, rape you, all of the above or worse, I still want you to smile as you hand over the cash that Islam actually doesn't ask you for. I know God says in the Qur'an that you should spend in the way of Allah, but since He has appointed me as his vicegerent, you can spend in the way of me and take it up with Allah in the next life.


  • At 12:31 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    any proof of where this came from? got any evidence... looks very made up to me..

  • At 2:41 am, Blogger Shahid said…

    Actually, it is made up. It's called satire. If you knew your creed though, you'd remember that it's based almost entirely on an MGA quote about the Boer War, where Mirza Sahib supported the British effort - an effort which included the creation of the first widely recognised concentration camps where tens of thousands of women and children died.


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Saturday, January 29, 2005

Follow Islam

Dear Ahmadis,

At a recent jalsa, a young unmarried couple were caught fornicating in a tent while friends of the boy watched and encouraged the couple. There are perverts defiling the honour and integrity of young girls and boys everywhere. The khalifa is robbing you blind and you are happily emptying your pockets and selling your children into his grateful lap. This is your saved sect?

Ahmadis, wake up and smell the coffee, before it's too late. Keep your chanda in your pockets. Give Zakat instead. Stop going to Jalsa. And the money you save in Chanda, use it to help you do Hajj, with nothing but "Muslim" in your hearts and passports. Pray regularly, and offer durood to the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW, and forget about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani. There is nothing wrong with the Islam of the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW. He was the greatest explainer of Islam, not any of the Mirza family.

Read the Holy Qur'an. Look for where Allah has asked you to believe in a "Promised Messiah" lest you lose your soul. I promise you, not a single referene exists.

Follow the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW and reject innovation and overly-contrived explanations, which Allah has expressly forbidden in the Holy Qur'an. "They follow nothing but conjecture".

I will pray for all of us after posting this. I urge you Ahmadis, look deep, deep into your hearts with honesty. I am not seeking anything from you. Muslims seek nothing from you. It is Allah only to whom you should turn, not Mirza Masroor Sahib.

Embrace Islam and reject everything else.

‘This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.’
(Holy Qur’an, 5:3)

Islam was perfected in the lifetime of the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW. It needed no re-interpretation. And you need nothing more.

Wassalam and may Allah shower you all with His Infinite Mercy. Ameen


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Friday, January 28, 2005

Dear Ahmadis

To all Ahmadis, those who know me, and those who don't.

I was once in your shoes. Deep in the bosom of jama'at Ahmadiyya. I would never have left had I not had the time and the will and the guidance from Allah.

I am irreverent towards your leadership. I was once one of you, so I know it stings. I wouldn't have liked it either. Please remember, I have love for you, because I know most of you believe in Islam and if you really knew about the foundation of jama'at Ahmadiyya, if you really had a choice, you would choose Islam.

It is frightening to even think of leaving. The possible boycott, the shame, the humiliation, and possibly the fear that you are taking the wrong step. Ask Allah SWT to help you! Allah SWT helps his servants if they truly desire and seek His pleasure!

If I did not have the time, the will and the hidayah, I might never have left. Time is short. Look into your belief. Your life is not a trial run. Your deen is too important an issue to have it decided on your behalf by default! Seek the truth. Pray for guidance.

If you're proud of your belief, go and debate it openly with knowledgeable Muslims! Ask your leadership to engage in open and honest debate with the Ulema! What is there to fear if you are right? And if you are wrong, then you will know, and you can do something about it. Visit the various forums. If you are open, you will recognise the Truth when you see it. There are false claims on both sides, false arguments on both sides, but, and this is important, only one side is on the right path!

Ask the difficult questions and seek the Truth, from wherever it comes. Do you know of the writings of the founder of your jama'at? Don't you owe it to yourself to learn everything you can, and to determine why it is that all the Muslims find the idea of there being a prophet after the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW so blasphemous? Drop the emotion and look humbly into the core of the arguments. I urge you not to be perfunctory when you are examining the issues!

It is hard to leave, easy to stay. This life is short though, and the next life is eternal. Who knows if tomorrow will come for you or I? Only Allah SWT knows. Put your faith in Allah SWT alone, not your leadership. Don't accept mediators between your soul and Allah SWT. Go straight to the source. Listen to all the sides.

Islam is beautiful. It was completed in the lifetime of the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW. Embrace that Islam, and accept no substitute. Your soul is at stake. And may Allah SWT guide you and protect you from evil. Ameen.


  • At 7:09 am, Anonymous saima said…

    Iam your sister in islam,the real &only islam brought by Muhammad (PBUH).your openess and sincerety has greatly impressed me. iam shocked though that non of the qadianis has bothered to respond to this plea of yours. but u have done your job.May Allah Keep u on hidaya.Ameen.May he give u the courage to continue and protect u from every hazard.Ameen
    lots of Duas


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Open Letter to a Friend


th January 2005

Dear Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Sahib,

I am writing to you in English as my Urdu is not that great. However, since you received revelations in English (let’s overlook the poor grammar, shall we?) and since no doubt you are with your esteemed friends, including Maulvi Muhammad Ali, whose grasp of English I understand was very good, getting a translation shouldn’t be a problem.

I appreciate that you are no longer alive, but since you measure the success of the mission of the Promised Messiah in terms of the lifetime of the movement, I thought the matter of your being on this realm or not was hair-splitting. Incidentally, I looked for the Promised Messiah in the Holy Qur’an, but couldn’t find him. I couldn’t find Hadhrat Imam Mahdi there either. Oh, I found Hadhrat Isa, but let’s face it, you’re not the same person. As for Krishna, I found no reference to him in our Noble Qur’an either. So please excuse me if in my confusion over your identity, I simply refer to you as respected Mirza Sahib.

This is an open letter, and I’m sure that those who are still loyal to your
jama’at and who will remember me as being loyal to your jama’at before November 2004 will find the way I have addressed you to be a little disrespectful, not calling you Hazoor and all that, a term that I feel is more appropriate for the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW by the way. I know you said that “those who distinguish between me and Mustafa, have neither seen me, nor recognised me”, but I’m sorry, although I’ve only seen your picture - you definitely aren’t the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW. I know you’re from India, but aren’t you taking this Hindu concept of reincarnation a little too far?

In case this stings you slightly, I should point out that the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW, whom you followed in perfection to the point of being a second and improved advent of him was never averse to questions. Or was it Hadhrat Isa you claimed to be a second advent of? Or Krishna? Or was it all the prophets? I apologise for my confusion!

Since you have also abrogated the Qur’anic injuction of Jihad of the sword (Qital) for all time, I thought you would be open to a Jihad of the pen and thus my open letter. Don’t worry if you can’t reply yourself, I’d be happy to hear from one of your progeny, I mean, successors, seeing as they get revelations too. Maybe you could inspire them to reply?

Please excuse my frankness. As I say, I mean you no disrespect, this is merely my style. If you find me provocative, then I mean to provoke thought, not anger, you should consider me a friend! I really wouldn’t want you to write me a letter with a thousand numbered invocations of laanat. Since you have done this before, I wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of you and receive perhaps 10,000 laanats or more, all diligently numbered.

Hey! That gives me an idea! If you had followed this example to its logical conclusion, then perhaps you could have delivered on your original promise of 50 volumes of the
Braheen-i-Ahmadiyya after all, instead of reneging on your deal with Muslims and delivering only 5 volumes! I can understand why you had been criticising and abusing the poor suckers who had been waiting 20 years who foolishly asked for their money back. After all, didn’t they see the funny side of you deleting only a single dot from the promised figure? These Muslims! No sense of humour!

If you had followed my suggestion, perhaps you could have filled the 45 missing volumes with
laanats for all of your enemies! Or for all future enemies! For all of Islam in fact, because over a billion Muslims still don’t believe in you and therefore, as you say, are not really Muslims anyway. So that’s OK then. Anyway, I digress - that way, you could have avoided all those unfair accusations that you were not setting a good example in terms of sticking to promises; or just as bad, that you had gone back on a business deal and that the customers of the transaction were indignant about only getting a tenth of what they paid for.

Never mind, we could always get one of your divinely-ordained progeny, I mean of course, an independent
Khalifa who is not necessarily a direct descendant of your family and heir to your money (silly me, I meant the money you took from those suckers that believed you, just because you were as charismatic and brilliant at debate as any modern cult leader – I’d love to see who’d win a mubahila between you and L. Ron Hubbard) to write the missing volumes and claim that they were there all along, but that “stupid Muslims” hadn’t seen them or asked about them. It would be so easy, I mean, as you know, nowadays we have the word processor and we have cut and paste! Damn! If you had had these things in your day, you might have been able to do it yourself! Just hit Ctrl-V for half a day (you could do it between Fajr and Asr, since you had time because you were in the habit of doing Zohr and Asr together, great time-saver! How else were you going to break the cross, eh?) and you would have been able to stick to your promise!

Oh the bit about your family, I meant Hakim Noor-u-din notwithstanding; let’s face it,
Ahmadiyyat was more his idea than yours anyway. I don’t think you denied that. You were just the front-man. The charismatic leader who could contradict himself a thousand times, but like Tony Blair, never get chucked out of your God-appointed office. You were untouchable. Whoops, didn’t quite mean it like that, you know what I mean!

Oh there’s a bit of confusion for me right there. You said your office was appointed by the “stamp”-like seal of the Holy Prophet SAW. I was under the impression that only Allah had the power to appoint prophets. My bad. Sorry for the misapprehension.

You handing over power to your brother-in-arms (oh, we can’t have that, you abrogated arms, whilst confiscating alms) … your brother-in-no-arms after your death probably inspired Prime Minister Tony Blair. Looks like he won’t hand over power to Gordon Brown until after his own demise either. And like Noor-u-din, Brown was always the real brains and Power behind the Throne. Of course – your throne is the greatest of all sent down according to what your God told you. Do you remember? I think you’re so impressive - that people still believed you after you made such obviously over-the-top claims about your own grandiosity and enormity.

Remember, you were promising 300 proofs of the superiority of Islam? I had an idea! Although you delivered only one proof in the end, you could have argued that since Allah is One, to have delivered 300 proofs might have implied a compromise in His Unity (God forbid). In fact, you could have just deleted the
nukhtas and said “Since the difference between 300 and 3 is only two nukhtas, my promise has been fulfilled to those of understanding”. But wait! That still leaves you with two proofs too many! I know, you could have added “Allah revealed to me that three proofs is abrogated for all time, and He said He doesn’t want anything to do with the number “3” as it represents the Trinity and the ideology of the cross. And I have to get on with destroying that. My job role as Promised Messiah is too important an issue to set aside just to be fair and reasonable! So since I am here to show that there is no ‘3’, and there is only ‘1’, I have kept my promise”. Oh and of course, I almost forgot. Your job role as the Promised Messiah also obviated your requirement to do Hajj. People should understand that breaking the cross, which of course you did, oh wait, no, Christianity increased both during your office term and after it; let’s think about that one for a bit. Anyway, we’ll work out a good excuse as to why “the second advent of the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW” didn’t do Hajj.

Those “idiot Muslims” who were expecting you to stick to the letter of your word should have known that Allah Himself told you directly that you are to Him as His Unity and Uniqueness. Not even the Holy Prophet SAW could have claimed such a revelation! Isn’t your
jama’at lucky to have you? Then again, you have claimed to be a more perfect advent of RasulAllah SAW and people really shouldn’t be expecting you to be so earthly as to condescend to honour a public transaction. That would mean you offered nothing new in Islam! No Shariah, no deal. It doesn’t matter that there is no concept of a Shariah-free-prophethood mentioned in the Holy Qur’an, since you are the best person to interpret it until Judgement Day.

Let’s face it, one of your greatest achievements was the new and interesting way you interpreted the Holy Qur’an! What were all those Arabs thinking of that they didn’t even understand their own language that it took a man of Mongolian, I mean, sorry, Persian descent to tell them what the Holy Qur’an
really meant? You came to reform, to guide, to innovate all those great thinkers. Even Imam Bukhari got it wrong with his Sahih Bukhari, don’t you think? All that stuff about the Holy Prophet SAW being the last in the line of prophets! What a daft idea! It was something that no native Arab speaker for 1400 years got the hang of!

Anyway, what’s wrong with a fresh idea? What would be the point in another prophet like you if he was
not going to be innovating in religion, even though Allah Himself has expressly forbidden it? Like your God said to you, if it wasn’t for you, He wouldn’t have created the heavens! I guess He created the Qur’an for you too, right? I mean, He did reveal it to you again. Maybe you think He got it wrong the first time? Maybe you think you understood it better than the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW and his Sahaba? Oh wait. You have Sahaba too, right? This is all getting a bit confusing.
Respected Mirza Sahib, I don’t mean to poke fun. You see, I’m of the Internet generation. We ask questions. We want to learn. We don’t just take things at face value. That might make us a little impertinent, but we don’t want to be taken for a ride. I’m sure you wouldn’t want innocent people taken for a ride. Would you?

Well, I’m sure you’re busy getting ready for your heavenly nikkah with Muhammadi Begum, that is assuming her legitimate and rightful husband doesn’t object, but who is he to stand in the way of such a great prophet, right? I know you can’t write back, but I know you’ll find a way of reading this. Perhaps you can ask Allah to inspire one of your descendants to respond? I’d love to know what you think of my ideas.


Shahid Kamal Ahmad


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Allah alone is worthy of praise. We Muslims say "Al-Hamdolilah". All His Creation praises Him. He does not give praise, or "Hamd" to anyone.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani claimed that Allah revealed to him:
Allah praises you (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani) in the heavens.  He praises you and comes to you."

(Source: Tadhkira, P. 276, 2nd Edition)

For Muslims, this is outright blasphemy. No amount of word-twisting, deception, maniplation, argument, debate or so called "deeper understanding" alters the inherent outrageusness of this bold claim!

Allah has not praised the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW in the Holy Qur'an, nor any human being. The word "Hamd" or "praise" is reserved for Allah. If Allah has not praised The Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW, the Seal of the Prophets, the greatest of men, why would He praise Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani?

Mirza Sahib claimed that Allah had revealed to him that Allah praises him. Allah would not do such a thing! Allah alone is worthy of all praise. Never do Allah's ways change! If Allah wouldn't do such a thing, then Mirza Sahib was not receiving revelation. Ergo, Mirza Sahib was a false claimant to prophethood. Remember, Muslims believe in the finality of prophethood, so they don't even consider Mirza Sahib's utterances as anything other than blasphemy. But with this one so-called revelation, Mirza Sahib did a great job of utterly discrediting himself.

Dear Ahmadi brothers and sisters. Embrace Islam! Follow the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW, and accept no substitute, no zilli, noo buroozi, no second advent. There can be only one. One God. One Final Messenger. Until the Judgement Day.


  • At 12:34 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    what is Tadhkira, P. 276, 2nd Edition? is that supposed to mean anything? who wrote it? is it one of those fake books flying around in pakistan? where can i get a copy of this book?

  • At 2:44 am, Blogger Shahid said…

    Tadhkirah is a collection of 'revelations' and 'dreams' of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. You can buy it from any Ahmadi centre. Or you can buy it from your own website. It was translated by your very own Zafrullah Khan.

    What is your own name? And why the attitude? Now that you have been hoisted by your own petard, will you come and join Muslims in sunshine? You will be welcomed.

  • At 6:11 am, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Up yours Shahid.


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I've now enabled comments for all viewers of this blog. You can be as anonymous as you like, and you don't even have to be registered with blogger.


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What do I think of Ahmadis?

Some Ahmadis say "good riddance". Others think that I am influenced by "hate sites". Still others believe in freedom of thought and I'm entitled to my religious view. And then there are the few who think that my criticism of the organisation or institution or the leadership is unwarranted and disgusting.

I love many Ahmadis. I count many family members amongst the Ahmadis. Or perhaps, I count many Ahmadis amongst my family members.

However, one is not allowed to raise one's voice against jama'at and be a prominent member of it. In order to criticise, one first has to leave. This is not Islamic.

It's not my mission to upset Ahmadis. Now that I have left, I am trying to live my life. However, since the ability to express my disenchantment was not possible from within, I am doing it from without; and my motive is simply to help other Ahmadis who are also doubtful, see where I'm coming from, make up their own minds about my criticisms and make their own minds up about what they believe in. It's not possible to be a central figure in jama'at Ahmadiyya and be provocative. So my writings serve a two-fold purpose.

First, to vocalise what I was not able to vocalise before, to go "on the record" about the Ahmadiyya Movement.

Second, to reach out to those Ahmadis that have similar thoughts. To let them know that they aren't the only ones. There are many others. Many have left, and many will continue to do so. Your soul is at stake. Research your belief, understand it and then - and only then, should you decide where to stand.

My style of writing has never changed. I write in a provocative way. I do this to satirise a point that has perhaps had the veneer of respect on it for too long. I only say that the emperor has no clothes. Go ahead and denude me if you wish, but I am not making a claim for prophethood, or even a claim to be anything other than an ordinary Muslim, with my own weaknesses. However, I have the right to express my views, and I am exercising that right for the reasons I've already cited. If the Ahmadiyya Movement is right, then no anti-Ahmadiyya argument can win, can it? So what's wrong with a "Jihad of the Pen"? If my points are flawed or reprehensible, I am not too proud to retract them and restate them.

By not going "public", how would my departure be of any service? Yes, religion is a personal matter, but it is also a requirement of every Muslim to spread the word. If I believe that Islam is right and jama'at Ahmadiyya is wrong, I would be mistaken in not expressing my opinion. If people disagree with those opinions, that is their fundamental right. If they benefit from my views, then Allah has given me His Grace and Mercy to do works for Him. If my style is irreverent, that is just my style. It is meant to be provocative. It is meant to provoke thought. If you choose to hate me, but have absorbed some of what I say, then I am happy.

My dear Ahmadi brothers and sisters. I was once one of you. I didn't like being attacked by those against my beliefs and sought to defend the jama'at at almost any cost. However, I couldn't pay the price of my soul, when I established that the Movement was based on much contradiction and falsehood. That your ideology is attacked should not be seen as an attack on your person, even if you relate your person strongly to your belief. Be calm and rational. Fight falsehood. Even if it is your own. Embrace Truth. Even if it is from others.


  • At 12:35 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    man get some education...

  • At 1:52 pm, Blogger Shahid said…

    Thank you for the kind advice. It is my pleasure to get some education every single day. What about you?

  • At 7:12 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I've been debating with Ahmadis for years and it use to hurt me that my friends are soo close to Islam yet so far. Your comments made me realize that their are smart people out there like yourself, and that God does help his people. May Allah give others the same strength as he gave you to seek answers and guide every individual to the right path.


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Thursday, January 27, 2005

Initiation - conditions 1 & 2

I was just wondering how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad would fare if he wished to be initiated into his own movement?

I refer you to the Initiation Conditions of jama'at Ahmadiyya to familiarise yourself.

Let's procede to examine the requirements:
The initiate shall solemnly promise:
I. That he/she shall abstain from Shirk (association of any partner with God) right up to the day of his/her death.

That's odd. I distinctly remember Mirza Sahib speaking contrary to this:

"It is an inspiration O'Mirza!  Whatsoever you intend for, it comes into existence instantaneously by your order."
   (Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 22, P. 108; Tadhkira, P. 525/527, 656, Ed. II P. 826; Haqeeqat-al-Wahey P. 105)

Never mind, let's move onto another condition.
II. That he/she shall keep away from falsehood, fornication, adultery, trespasses of the eye, debauchery, dissipation, cruelty, dishonesty, mischief and rebellion; and will not permit himself/herself to be carried away by passions, however strong they might be.

I'll leave most of these for now, but let's look at the last one. I'm not going to pull out the references, there are plenty, I have verified them for myself in a past life as an Ahmadi. For example, writing a thousand laanats, calling your opponents children of prostitutes etc. This behaviour also carries in it falsehood, dishonety, mischief and rebellion (against Islam!). Oh well, maybe there's hope in the third condition? Let's continue tomorrow and see if Mirza Sahib is able to score better.

We could actually stop here, since the failure to adhere to any one of the conditions invalidates the initiation. We can already conclude that Mirza Sahib was not an Ahmadi.


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Wednesday, January 26, 2005

The Heavenly Graveyard

Of all the vile and insulting concepts originating from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, one of the most repulsive is the concept of Bahishti Maqbara - the "Heavenly Graveyard" or "Celestial Cemetery" as the official jama'at site puts it.

...Bahishti Maqbara has been operating in Qadian and in Rabwah where those Ahmadis are buried who have fulfilled the above conditions. Every Ahmadi firmly believes that only those members destined for Paradise are buried in this heavenly cemetery.

Celestial Cemetery, Official Jama'at Web site

Let me start raining on this pathetic parade from the get-go:

  1. Bahishti Maqbara was "seen" by MGA as a specific place. It was in Qadian. Where did Rabwah come in? Rabwah wasn't even a figment of anyone's imagination. So the extension to Rabwah is ludicrous and more importantly, fraudulent. Let's say I put down a deposit on a house. I pay my instalments and one day, my payments are complete. I get my house. But it's no longer in Mayfair or Beverly Hills, as promised, it's in Brixton or Comptom. When I was an Ahmadi, I discussed this with others in the jama'at. They all laughed at the tenuous, disingenuous explanations offered. If the original graveyard wasn't a sick, fraudulent money-grabbing scheme, then its extension to Rabwah just made it even more obviously crooked.

  2. Apparently, every Ahmadi "firmly believes that only those members destined for Paradise are buried in this heavenly cemetery." Really? Which one? Qadian or Rabwah? This fraudster never thought things through. If there could even be such a thing as a guaranteed passport to heaven so long as you paid higher-rate tax, then wouldn't such a place be large enough to support a significant populace? Remember, Ahmadis believe the world is theirs in around a couple of centuries. If even only 1% of the world enters the Wassiyat scheme, and population by some miracle doesn't expand, where will they bury 60 million people?

  3. If I (God forbid) were still an Ahmadi, and I secretly slept with prostitutes, secretly was a thief and a rapist and a murderer, and got away with it, but paid up my chanda wassiyat, I'd be guaranteed heaven according to the jama'at. Don't insult my intelligence with the line that only pious people get in. That's about as funny as the idea that the Khalifa is divinely appointed and that out of "200 million", God only elects members of Mirza Sahib's family - other than Hakim Noor-u-din who let's face it, was the real brains behind Ahmadiyyat anyway. The fact is, if I pay up and keep my nose clean, I get in. If I'm pious beyond belief, but miss one payment, my body is turned back at the gates of the graveyard.

  4. I personally know of one person buried at the Heavenly Gatecrash who will never be going to heaven. If there is a God, and I believe there is, no God would allow a person as evil and filthy to go near His Garden. Perhaps Allah is even more merciful than I thought, in which case Stalin and Hitler have got a chance too. But no! They didn't buy into it!

  5. It is now jama'at standard policy that office-bearers must take part in the wassiyat scheme. And the entry conditions have been relaxed somewhat. Hey, everyone wants in on the higher-tax bracket! If we dig it, they will come!

  6. The concept of such a grave facade is anathaema to Muslims. You go to heaven according to your deeds and Allah's Mercy and the intervention, if Allah wills, of His Last Prophet. End of. Period. No discussion.

Some more words from MGA:
Whoever desires to be buried therein should make a testamentary disposition that one tenth of his property shall, under direction of the Movement, be devoted to the propagation of Islam, and carrying out the teachings of the Quran. It will be open to every righteous person whose faith is perfect to provide for this purpose in his will more than one tenth, but it shall not be less.

Note particularly the bold type. The Qur'an and Islam teach the following:

  • Do not break your religion into sects: By declaring all Muslims who do not accept MGA as kaafir, Ahmadiyya created not just a sect, but a new religion

  • Do not create innovations in religion: Try searching the text of the Holy Qur'an for a Masih Ma'ood. Keep looking....keep looking...there are lots of other Ahmadi innovations. I haven't got all night.

  • Qur'an never to be abrogated, not a single word: MGA abrogated Jihad of the sword (Qital) - the defenders of jama'at claim otherwise, but the words are in black and white.

  • the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW was the last in the line of prophets: MGA stole this title for himself and indeed, claimed Allah referred to him as Muhammad and Ahmad

  • Hadhrat Isa AS was not crucified: MGA claimed that he was crucified and survived, then travelled to Kashmir where he lived for over eight decades more. MGA plagiarised the ideas of predecessors in this matter

So is jama'at Ahmadiyya propogating Islam and carrying out the teachings of the Qur'an? Or is it engaging in fraud at the cost of the souls of its members?

I could go on and on. And don't worry. InshaAllah, I will.


  • At 12:38 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    lucky you left the jammat mate... do something with your life... all this site does is make more people find out about ahmadiyyat... and than they see all the bullshit this blog is filled with.. than they convert.. simple.. you dish the shit... we tell the truth.. sorry... still growing...

  • At 1:54 pm, Blogger Shahid said…

    You use language in a public forum like your founder Mirza Sahib. Yes, it was very fortunate, for my soul, that I left jama'at Ahmadiyya.

    I pray Allah SWT opens up your heart to receive the Truth and I hope you will be ready to receive it.

    Any proof of your 200 million by the way? You're not a sad little child that still believes that fairy story are you?

    What's your name and why are you hiding?

  • At 10:29 am, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I think you're doing a fine job here. Please keep it coming. Also pray in front of Allah with tears in your eyes every night until they are gone. If He has an even ounce of love of Islam and His Prophet he should end these people and their religion breaking up and scattering them. Hopefully it will happen in your life. But if it doesn't and they keep on growing then I want you to tell your children to keep of praying with the same vigor until Islam is free of them.


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The Baker

I went to my local baker one morning. I asked him, let's call him Mr. Fitna, for a loaf of his finest bread. I liked Mr. Fitna, because every loaf was better than the last and always had a distinguishing feature.

"Shahid, this is the very last loaf I will make. It is the seal of loafs. Once I give this loaf to you, no more loafs will be made!"

I was perplexed. "But Mr. Fitna, is that really it? Is it really the last in the line of loafs?"

"Yes Shahid. But consider it a blessing. Every loaf I have ever made has been better and different. And every time a new loaf of bread came, you wondered if it really was a true loaf, whether you should stick to the old one or not, or whether to try the new one. Now you know that no loafs will come, you will remember this finest loaf of mine for all time and it will keep you happy until my bakery closes!"

I felt a bit happier. "But Mr. Fitna, you told me that you put a loaf of bread in the freezer, one you made a while ago! Won't I ever get to try that one?"

"Shahid, you have a good memory! Yes, that loaf is in the freezer. It's not my best loaf, but it was ok. I had a bit of it, and saved the rest for later. The day I close my bakery, I will defrost it, we will share it and it will remind us of the beauty of this last loaf I have made today!"

"But Mr. Fitna, won't that make it the last loaf?"

"Don't be ridiculous Shahid. You're having the last loaf today! I made that loaf ages ago, this new loaf I made today. You might taste that loaf later, but it will be the same old loaf. How does that make it the last loaf?"

"I see Mr. Fitna. That makes sense to me."

The following day I went back to the baker, Mr. Fitna, more out of habit than anything else.

"Shahid, I have a surprise for you!"

"Oh yes Mr. Fitna? What is it?"

"Do you remember yesterday I told you that the loaf of bread I gave you was the last loaf? Well, I got one of those buns and slapped it into the tin that I made the last loaf in and here you go, a new loaf of bread, but not really a loaf of bread, more like a shadow of the one I made yesterday. A reflection of its glory. It in no way infringes on the finality of that loaf of bread!"

"Mr. Fitna, you're confusing me. Is this a new loaf or not?"

"Well yes Shahid, but in a shadowy kind of way, and it doesn't have any new ingredients, they were already there!"

"But Mr. Fitna, what are you claiming? Was the loaf of bread yesterday truly the last in the line?"

"Oh Shahid, you are stupid! How would that loaf be great, if the tin which was used to make it couldn't be used again to stamp out new loaves in its image?"

"Mr. Fitna, you are desecrating the memory of your greatest loaf of bread! The last in the line! No more bread was to be made! And yet here you are with a counterfeit bun in a worthless tin, with no new or changed ingredients?"

"Well no, not quite, I abrogated yeast, so this loaf is incapable of rising up! But I can assure you, this is to me like a second advent of yesterday's loaf of bread, as it possesses all of its qualities. But you know, although the tin has been re-used the once, I don't think I'll use it again, so I threw it away. Now no more bread will come!"

"But Mr. Fitna, you told me that yesterday! Aren't you really saying that the worthless bread you have made today is the last in the line of bread to be made?"

I was really confused. The bread I was offered yesterday had been the best I had ever tasted. And now I was being offered this useless counterfeit, mocking the image of the original, whilst sneakily singing its praises. Everyone could see that it was a shadow of the original in a pejorative sense, not a reflection in the glorious sense. A pale imitation. A fraud. And what was all the circuitous nonsense that Mr. Fitna was contriving to convince and confuse me with?

"If you eat this bread today, you will be showing me how much you loved the best of bread yesterday! Eating this bread will be like a homage to the Signet-Ring of loafs! In fact, I don't believe that you really love that finest loaf, or believe it was the best, unless you eat this loaf today. Only through eating this bread today, can you be assured of being amongst those who thought the bread yesterday was the best ever made!"

"Mr. Fitna, what would you say to all those people who tried that loaf yesterday, but didn't come to your shop today to see this fake loaf? Or those who having heard what you said about yesterday's bread being the best ever made, and the last in the line until your bakery closes, only testified to the tastiness of yesterday's seal of the loafs?"

"Shahid, it's simple. Those who distinguish between the greatest loaf of bread ever made and this new one today, have neither seen it, nor recognised it!"

"Mr Fitna, has anyone ever told you that you're full of...."


  • At 12:42 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    this is what happened when a lalloo learns how to use the internet... the net is already filled with so much waffle.. and here we have a story about bread... obviously the writer is trying to hit a deeper point... but i dont know...

  • At 1:58 pm, Blogger Shahid said…

    Insulting people again? You must be such a good example to your Ahmadi friends. Love for all, hatred for none, eh? Hypocrisy your name? Is that why you're hiding?

    For your information, let me explain your creed to you, because obviously you still know absolutely nothing about it, though I welcome your initial foray onto this blog and hope you will continue to read with an open mind and heart.

    Mirza Sahib wrote a document called "Ek Ghalati Ka Izala" which was published in 1901. The Ahmadis (and their opponents) have used that document as prima facie evidence of his claim to prophethood, in direction violation of the Finality of Prophethood.

    You obviously haven't read the document. If you had read it a dozen times or more, like I have, then you might understand the story, which like many stories, is a metaphor. You do understand what a metaphor is, right?


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Tuesday, January 25, 2005

The Well

I had always fought to defend the well, in the spirit of my forefathers. With my person and with my wealth. Through the efforts of people like me, the well was overflowing. The well was in a desert. Others were jealous of it, but the well remained safe, guarded by Mirza Sahib and maintained by his loyal followers.

After a while, my means became straightened. I walked the desert looking for water, but I found no oasis. Shamed, beaten, humiliated and thirsty, I went to the well and asked Mirza Tahir Ahmad if there was any way I could drink from the well until my means improved, I would then return what I had taken.

I could see the water, I could see that some of it had been protected by me, and with my efforts, there was more water than ever before. I asked humbly. Mirza Tahir Ahmad replied "Pray. Buy some Premium Bonds, you never know, you might get lucky". And then he sent me away.

That's pretty much a true story. I visited Mirza Tahir Ahmad in the late 1980s when I was heavily in debt, after years of contributing chanda regularly and generously. I was unwell and I had nowhere else to turn. The advice he gave me when I asked for help was exactly as above. Then he sent me on my way.

Recently, out of curiosity, I searched the UK Charity Commission web site for the word Ahmadiyya and found this:

Extract from the Central Register of Charities maintained by the Charity Commission for England and Wales

Main Charity 299081


Charity Correspondent
SW18 5SF

0207 935 1186

Governing Document


Do you notice object D) ?? Let's highlight it, shall we?

Are you laughing? i can assure you that I was. Heartily. I contributed countless thousands of pounds. I asked, but was never told where this money was going. And when I was in poverty, the jamaat failed to act, and indeed, continued to insist on chanda payments. I was told that despite my unemployment, the only way I would get relief on my obligation to pay was if I wrote a begging letter to the Khalifa. How utterly humiliating and degrading. And this after being the top chanda payer in my region year after year after year.

My last memory of jamaat Ahmadiyya was the constant chasing to make a promise for Tehrik-e-Jedeed, during a period in which jamaat knew that my means were straitened and that I was unemployed. And I was charged £6 for a Qur'an despite my inability to provide for my children, never mind myself.

The funny thing is, nobody ever told me a thing about Zakat, a pillar of Islam.

Here is the reality my brothers and sisters. If I had paid Zakat and observed my prayers and kept my fasts and gone to Hajj, I would not be able to take an office-bearer's position in jamaat. Had I been a thief and a vagabond, failed to observe my prayers, beat my wife and children, yet been a member of the higher-tax-bracket Wassiyat scheme, I would have walked into any office-bearing position.

No ordinary Ahmadi can draw water from the well. And if those Ahmadis genuinely think that the water is used entirely to propogate Islam, then there are former Ahmadis all over the world who are waking up - and we will help you smell the coffee.


  • At 5:30 am, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    you know what the funny thing is. that you say you were the top chanda payer and then you say 2 lines before that that you were in poverty.

  • At 4:40 pm, Blogger Shahid said…

    Dear "Anonymous",

    I can see how that might be confusing to someone who doesn't know me.

    Why don't you tell me your name? I am not hiding, why are you?

    AlHamdolilah, Allah has blessed me with wealth for most of my adult life. I have had two periods of difficulty, which I accept with grace. My working life has been over 20 years. My periods of dificulty, have AlHamdolilah, been not very long at all.

    I hope that clarifies things.

  • At 12:47 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    you aint no ahmadi.. never were shahid... stop telling these lies... you are not part of us... and even after paying chanda for several years... you didnt have even have a Quran in your collection ???

  • At 2:04 pm, Blogger Shahid said…

    Ah but you see my former Ahmadi brother or sister, whoever you are, because you are hiding, but using my name like a coward - I am so glad that I am not an Ahmadi anymore. But I certainly was. It is your fear that stops you from accepting that someone who knows so much about the jama'at, about its teachings and workings and machinations, could ever have been an "insider".

    I have told no lies, of what benefit to my soul would it be to tell lies about my faith? You obviously don't know me. Maybe you'd like to meet me?

    I wasn't paying chanda for several years, I was paying for over 20. And yes, I had plenty of Qur'ans. I was getting one for someone else.

    So, what is your name? And why all the assumptions? You sound like a very sad, confused and lost little boy actually. One I might have been talking with online to. Someone who is rude, abusive, sticks their head in the sand, makes nasty assumptions, is personal and doesn't know the difference between lies and truth. A perfect example for your jama'at, right?

    Well I would love to hear from you. Write to me at coughremedy at gmail dot com. If you want to stay anonymous, I have no problem with that, but it does seem rather cowardly, especially when you're using my name and making such absurd assumptions about me.

  • At 8:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Mr Anonymus

    Why don't you pay back what you have been charging Shahid? What has your janaat given him when he was in need?

    Ahmadiyya is a cult with BRAINWASHED and programmed members who are made to work for Mirza family.... absolutely nothing to do with Islam..Otherwise, what qualification Mirza Masroor has other than being the grand son of Grand Liar??


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The Boer War and Funny Money

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani wrote:

" . . . I brought the attention of my Jama'at that all people should pray from the bottom of their hearts for their magnanimous government that Allah the Exalted should give it a Great Victory in the war that is going on in the Transvaal . . . so wherever the members of my Jama'at are, they should give "chanda" according to their means for the injured (soldiers) of the British Government who have sustained injury in the Transvaal War . . . this "chanda" should be collected and the lists sent to Mirza Khuda Baksh in Qadian (who has been appointed for this duty) by 1 March 1900 . . . my Jama'at should consider this work important and carry it out urgently."
(Feb 10, 1900 Advertisement, Majmooa Ishtiharat vol.3, p.219)

The above announcement was made near the beginning of the British offensive in the second Boer War, from January 1900 to September 1900.

The British had set up "concentration camps" to contain the refugees, mostly farmers who had lost their land during the fighting. The emotive term did not originally have the negative connotations that the Nazis brought to it. Nonetheless, conditions were inhumane and once the full extent of the suffering was revealed, there was uproar and outrage expressed in Britain. Estimates after the war revealed that as much as a quarter of the inmates, of which the vast majority were children under 16, died due to the inhumane conditions. Dysentery, typhoid and measles had been endemic and starvation claimed many. It is fair to conclude that this was a humanitarian disaster.

Mirza Sahib said:

"From my early age till now when I am 65 years of age, I have been engaged, with my pen and tongue, in an important task to turn the hearts of muslims towards the true love & goodwill & sympathy for the British Government and to obliterate the idea of jehad from the hearts of stupid (muslims)."
(Kitab-ul-Bariyah, Roohani Khazain vol 13 p.350)

There's nothing wrong with being loyal to your government. In fact, I believe it's the duty of Muslims to be model citizens, as long as they have the freedom to worship. A self-claimed prophet though, must have higher standards. He must say what needs to be said. Even if it hurts. He must speak the truth, and against oppression. Most notably, prophets hate oppression.

It's clear that the Boer inmates were oppressed. A prophet with a hotline to God would know this and would have boldly declared the goings-on inhumane and worthy of condemnation. This didn't happen. It behoves a decent person, never mind a claimant of prophethood, to vocally condemn such inhumanity. This is not to be mistaken for disloyalty. As a British citizen, I love Britain and respect its laws. However, I don't have to like what we're doing in Iraq and I am permitted to speak up against it. Mirza Sahib didn't have 24-hour news or the Internet, but he claimed to have constant revelation from God. He should have known and he should have spoken up.

Asking for contributions to help your country's war effort without understanding the ins and outs of the morality of the conflict seems shortsighted. A seer is not meant to be shortsighted. Let's just say he was naive. Mirza Sahib could have dropped the requests for "chanda" (how much of it got to the intended recipients anyway?) and merely asked his community to pray for all victims of the war, whilst speaking up about the need for fair treatment of all parties. If he had a clue about what was really going on, then his unilateral support without outright condemnation of the humanitarian disaster perpetrated by the British negligence at the time was hypocritical.

If he didn't have a clue, well, the conclusion is straightforward. Mirza Sahib did not receive knowledge of the Unseen. He was not a prophet.


  • At 1:30 am, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Salam brother Shahid, congrats for producing such a blog. It is simple for all muslims to understand if ahmadi are righteous or wrong. Just read the translation of the first Qalma, can't be that hard for any muslim to understand INSHALLAH. Well only non-muslims won't understand it. Well every sect of muslims, including Sunni's, Wahabi's and Shiya's have called them non-muslims. JAZAKALLAH.


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Why are there so few native Arab speakers in jamaat Ahmadiyya?

I guess it's hard to sell fake diamonds to a jeweller.


  • At 12:54 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    what... the arabs are the true muslims ....???
    are your sure....arabs are the playboys... drunks.. druggies... childmolesters of the muslim world... o yeah.. most if the terrorist at the mo are arabs..

  • At 2:06 pm, Blogger Shahid said…

    I didn't say Arabs were the 'true muslims'. By the way, 'Muslim' has a capital 'M'. As for your slander on the entire Arab nation, it is typical of an Ahmadi to sink this low.

    You don't understand the point, you are so lost in falsehood.


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Some ground rules

If you want to debate, is the place, this is not. Feel free to drop comments though. Another more formal platform for discussion is the Yahoo group moderated by the Imam from Irshad.

This blog is better suited to lurkers. Especially those who are still Ahmadi and are either curious as to why I left or on the brink themselves. All the opinions expressed here are my own. I do not speak for all Muslims, though I align myself with them.

I find that many Ahmadis who leave, become bitter and angry. When the full depth of what they discover becomes apparent to them, they are rightly indignant and will not tolerate any further ingress into their mind. They will not tolerate fools. They assume an almost evangelical zeal.

I am not immune to this phenomenon myself, but I recognise a greater need: the need to display empathy - to show that I understand the position of the entrenched Ahmadi who has doubts, but sees no good reason why they should leave their social circle, estrange their parents, siblings, children and friends. They also have an entrenched position on the rationality of their belief, which is the most dangerous of all the positions to take.

Islam is beautiful. It is not in need of reform. Reformers create schims and sects. This is bad.


  • At 4:54 am, Blogger abullah said…

    The False Prophecies of a False Prophet
    Mirza Ghulam Qadiani's False Predictions
    Mirza Ghulam Qadiani, the founder of Qadianism (Ahmadiyyat), wrote in his books:
    "To Judge my truthfulness or lies, there is no better test than my prophecies."
    (Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 19, P. 288)
    "Let it be known to unbelieving persons that my truthfulness or falsehood will be judged by my prophecies. There is no other touchstone for it."
    (Pamphlet, 10th July 1888; Aina-e-Kamalat-i-Islam, P. 288)
    "I do not speak of my volition. Indeed, that is nothing but revelation which is revealed."
    (Tabligh-e-Risalat, Vol. 5, P. 58)
    Torah and Quran have designated Prophecies as the only big proof of Prophethood."
    (Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 12, P. 111)
    "It is not possible that the prophecies of Prophets are delayed."
    (Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 19, P. 5)
    "To turn out a liar in his own prophecy is biggest disgrace of disgraces."
    (Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 15, P. 382)
    Allow us to examine a few of the better known prophecies of the person who called himself a Prophet, Mehdi, and the Promised Messiah. According to Mirza Ghulam himself, even if only one prophecy has not come to pass, we should view him a liar and an impostor. Let's count his most famous prophecies which did not come to pass:

    Prophecies and Mubahala Concerning Mr. Abdullah Khan Atham
    Mirza Ghulam Qadiani was badly humiliated by Mr. A.K. Atham, a Christian, in a debate. Mirza Ghulam's repeated prophecies regarding a miserable death for Mr. Atham did not come to pass.

    Prophecy concerning Multiple Marriages and many Children
    "Indeed God has given me the good news that I shall have numerous children from blessed women, whom I shall marry after this revelation."
    (Tabligh-i-Risalat, Vol. 5, P. 58)

    "In February 1886, I made a declaration after receiving revelation from God that He gave me good news of marriages after this declaration and soon I shall marry women of good omen and virtue and to me will be born children from them."
    (Tabligh-i-Risalat, Vol. 1, P. 89)

    Mirza Ghulam made this statement when he was 46 years old. The fact is that he did not marry anyone after this prophecy.

    Prophecies Regarding Marriage to Mohammadi Begum
    Mirza Ghulam's repeated assertions that his marriage to Mohammadi Begum was ordained by God never came to pass. Additionally, none of the individuals he had threatened with death from God died as he had predicted.

    Prophecies Regarding the birth of Sons to his wife
    Mirza Ghulam made multiple prophecies regarding birth of sons to his wife. They all failed.

    Prophecy about Marriage to a Virgin and a Widow
    Mirza Ghulam has written:

    "It is God's intention that He will bring two ladies in my wedlock. One will be virgin and the other widow. Therefore, this inspiration that is related to Bikr (virgin), it has been fulfilled and, presently by the grace of God, I have four sons from this wife. I am still waiting for the fulfillment of the inspiration regarding widow."
    (Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 15, P. 201)

    Mirza Ghulam never married a widow.

    Prophecies Regarding "A Spark of Light of Allah"
    Mirza Ghulam's claim that a new born boy would grow up to become the savior of the humanity failed, when the young boy died of an illness.

    Prophecies Concerning the Plague and Qadian
    Mirza Ghulam feared Cholera very much and declared it to be one of his signs. He predicted that the plague that became rampant in Punjab will not enter Qadian, the dwelling place of God's prophet (himself)! However, not only did the plague spread to Qadian, it also took the life of several people in Mirza Ghulam's own house.

    Prophecies Concerning Birth of a Son to a Follower
    Mirza Ghulam's prophecies concerning the birth of a son to one of his followers, Manzoor Muhammad, did not materialize.

    Prophecies and Mubahala Concerning Dr. Abdul Hakim
    Mirza Ghulam Qadiani engaged in a discussion with a Muslim Doctor by the name of Abdul Hakim. During this discussion, the Doctor called Mirza a Liar and challenged him to a debate. Instead of accepting the debate, Mirza Ghulam prophecised a miserable death for Dr. Hakim. These predictions also failed and proved to be the inventions of a lost soul and a pretender.

    Prophecy Concerning Long Life
    Mirza Ghulam declared to have received wahi (revelation) concerning his lifespan:

    "Enemies wish for my death and prophecise about it. God has, however, given me the good news that I shall live for eighty (80) years or more."
    (Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 19, P. 239; Mawahib-ur-Rahman, P. 21)

    Mirza Ghulam Qadiani died when he was sixty eight (68) years old.

    Prophecy Concerning his Death in a Holy City
    Mirza Ghulam had stated:

    "I will die either in Mekkah or Medina."
    (Tadhkira, P. 591)

    Mirza Ghulam did not ever see Mekkah or Medina. He died in the city of Lahor, Pakistan; his body was moved and burried in Qadian.
    On this brief page, we have presented dozens of prophecies Mirza Ghulam had falsely attributed to Allah(SWT).

    Who doth more wrong than those who invent a lie against Allah? They will be turned back to the presence of their Lord, and the witnesses will say, "These are the ones who lied against their Lord! Behold! the Curse of Allah is on those who do wrong!-
    Those who would hinder (men) from the path of Allah and would seek in it something crooked: these were they who denied the Hereafter!
    (The Holy Quran, Hud, 11:18-19)

    Even according to the standards set by the pretender Mirza, we should have no doubt that he was an impostor and a false claimant to prophethood. Allah(SWT), time and time again, has proved Mirza Ghulam's falsehood to those who seek guidance.

    Evil as an example are people who reject Our signs and wrong their own souls.
    (The Holy Quran, Al-Araf, 7:177)

    These are proofs for people who believe in and fear Allah(SWT): They are indisputable signs of the falsehood of the Qadiani leadership.


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Assalamoalaikum warahmatullah wabarakatohu.

In November 2004, I left the Ahmadiyya Movement and became a Muslim. Those who know me will be surprised at this statement; they considered me a Muslim. That's because I masqueraded as one without knowing what I really represented.

My life had been in turmoil for some years. After a particularly bad period in my life, I realised that something basic was very wrong. I started to pray for guidance. I begged for guidance. Every day for 18 months, I was on a spiritual, emotional, physical and mental rollercoaster that threatened to take my life, and probably my soul.

During Ramadan in 2004, I decided that it was about time I stopped taking my religion as a hobby and undertook an intense period of study, contemplation, research and prayer. Not long after, I realised that I was on the wrong path. I found it ironic that with a journey that began with a will to defend Ahmadiyyat to the hilt - a jihad of the pen if you like - I emerged rejecting Ahmadiyyat.

In this blog, I will share with you my ideas, my motives and my journey. It will be bumpy, uncomfortable, but ultimately, inshaAllah, rewarding.


  • At 5:23 am, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Well i think you should just tell your full name as so the world can see if you left or you were thrown out of the Jamaat

  • At 4:33 pm, Blogger Shahid said…

    Dear Anonymous Ahmadi,

    Why don't you tell me your name? My name is public knowledge, you obviously haven't been looking very hard.

    And for your information, I left, in a very public way, precisely so as to forestall any "retroactive kicking out" which the jama'at is very good at doing to those who express doubts!

    So Anonymous - hiding behind an anonymous connection, what's YOUR name? And if you're Ahmadi, don't you know that your Khalifa has PROHIBITED you from engaging in forums such as this? Are you worried that YOU will get kicked out of the jama'at?

    Read the rest of this blog so you can work out if this is a jama'at you really want to be in, hmmm??

  • At 1:01 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    what jamaat are you from? who was your qaid? do you know what a qaid is?
    Im actually very curious to meet one person who has left the jamaat.. well if you provide the details i'll find out...

  • At 1:03 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    he's just a disgruntled ex-ahmadi... poor tosser got chucked out of the jamaat... for being GAY

  • At 2:14 pm, Blogger Shahid said…

    Can you read?

    Do you know that my server has your IP address stored including a traceback to your referring site? Do you know that it would be a very simple matter, if I were that way inclined, for me to determine your identity and pass it onto your local and regional amir sahib, and the police?

    Luckily, you caught me on a good day and your post actually made me laugh out loud. I have never heard of anyone being chucked out of the jama'at for being gay. If that were the case, half of the jama'at would be gone!

  • At 2:17 pm, Blogger Tahir Iqbal said…

    Salam Shahid Bhai, It's Tahir again. After posting my earlier comment I thought to find the very first post on this blog so that may be it has answer to my questions. And now I've found them in very detail. No need to reply my other post; simply delete it.



  • At 6:20 am, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I am a systems consultant for one of the biggest IP telephony comapnies . This might help establish my credibility around IP address and traces. shahid is a sack of lying shit. You cannot trace IP address from random blog entries which enterd in XML. Why dont you post lets say my IP or MAC add??

    Also good to know .. hald of you are Gay!!! fruit

  • At 12:49 am, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ahmedia was created by british to divide muslims.


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